Andreas Rauchöcker

FS 3.509

Do we model what we measure?

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  • Full Title

    FS 3.509: Do we model what we measure?
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    TBA
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  • Assigned to Synthesis Workshop

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  • Keywords

    Field measurements, Numerical Modeling, Machine Learning, Comparison, Discussion

Description

In an ideal world, both numerical models and measurements would provide high quality data with high resolution on the spatial and temporal scale. However, this is often not feasible due to practical constraints such as limited resources and logistical challenges: model results suffer from increased uncertainties due to the numerous sub-grid processes that need to be represented by parameterizations in numerical models; and the representativeness of point measurements in field experiments is often questionable due to the large surface heterogeneity in the surrounding area. In addition, research sometimes suffers from a lack of communication between modelers and field scientists, which often leads to difficulties in validating model results against measurements and vice-versa. The discussion of such difficulties during this session can raise awareness about the unique challenges each group faces and the uncertainties associated with every dataset. By sharing insights, we aim to improve collaborations between modelers and field scientists and therefore strengthen the reliability and robustness of future research.

Submitted Abstracts

ID: 3.9205

Global geodatabase of mountain glacier extents at the Last Glacial Maximum

Augusto Lima
Margold, Martin; Hughes, Anna L. C.; Dulfer, Helen E.; Barr, Iestyn; Rentier, Eline S.; Laabs, Benjamin; Flantua, Suzette G. A.

Abstract/Description

Mountain regions are essential for understanding Earth’s climatic history, as their cycles of glacial advance and retreat have shaped landscapes, ecosystems, and regional climates during the Quaternary, leaving behind palaeoglacier records that reveal past climate dynamics. These glacier records are particularly important for understanding regional and local climate variations, as mountain glaciers respond sensitively to climatic changes, highlighting the importance of studying their past glaciation. This higher sensitivity is evident in the timing of maximum glacial extent (i.e. local Last Glacial Maximum, LLGM) in mountains, which often occurred outside the global LGM (26–19 kyr BP). However, existing global palaeoglacier databases (e.g., Ehlers and Gibbard, 2004; Ehlers et al., 2011) have not been updated to incorporate glacier extensions reconstructed in the last decade.

To address this gap, we present a new open-access global geodatabase of mountain glacier extents for the LGM. This synthesis integrates ice-extent reconstructions from 213 studies across 271 mountain ranges globally, standardising over 16,331 individual glacier reconstructions into a digital geodatabase covering the period 57-14 kyr BP. We implemented a hierarchical mountain range classification system, compiled metadata from each publication, and linked each reconstruction to its original sources. This effort has updated the state of knowledge in 157 mountain ranges, added over 9,450 new glacier reconstructions, and identified a gap in research in 114 mountain ranges where no updated reconstructions appear to have been produced in at least 13 years.

Our geodatabase is a powerful resource for investigating regional past climate variability, mountain landscape evolution, and ecological impacts of glaciations. It provides glacier masks for validating and refining climate-glacier modelling and offers spatial boundaries for palaeoecological reconstructions of mountain ecosystems. Furthermore, it identifies research gaps and understudied regions, guiding future work in Quaternary science. We anticipate releasing the database soon with the corresponding publication and website, along with detailed methodology and guidelines for further use.

ID: 3.10870

Visualizing variations in Cold Deserts.

Aishwarya Negi
Singh, Sanjay; Nautiyal, Raman

Abstract/Description

Cold deserts, characterized by rugged terrain and extreme temperatures, often lack proper on-ground meteorological stations. As a result, climate studies in these regions predominantly rely on satellite data, which frequently overestimate actual conditions on the ground. However, satellite obtained climate data models must be validated against ground-based observations to ensure accuracy and reliability. This study utilizes long-term meteorological data of approximately 30 years, from an on-ground station in the Indian cold desert, with high accuracy and reliability, to analyze significant climatic trends. The results indicate a rise in temperature, a decline in snowfall, and erratic rainfall patterns. Through time series analysis of climatic parameters such as temperature, wind speed, and snowfall, this study examines whether residents’ observed climate changes align with the actual climate trends. Moreover, the procurement of authentic ground-based data is expensive and often unavailable, posing a significant challenge for climate research in cold desert regions. This underscores the need for reliable field data to validate climate models and assess if they accurately reflect real-life conditions in these vulnerable regions. The findings emphasize the need for improved climate models that integrate climate drivers to ensure accurate climate projections for these extreme condition areas.

ID: 3.11046

Validation of ICON-LES from HEFEXII field campaign observations

Alexander Georgi
Sauter, Tobias

Abstract/Description

In August 2023, the HEFEX II (HinterEisFerner-EXperiment) campaign was conducted in the Austrian Alps to investigate multi-scale exchanges between the atmosphere and glaciers. The campaign combined data from numerous automatic weather stations (AWS) and Eddy-Covariance (EC) stations operating over four weeks and an intensive three-day observation utilizing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and LIDAR technology. These measurements provided detailed insights into various atmospheric parameters, including temperature, humidity, wind information, and heat fluxes, across spatial and temporal scales.

The collected data serves as a valuable resource for validating high-resolution ICON-LES (Large Eddy Simulation) models with a horizontal resolution of 51 meters. This validation is performed both qualitatively and quantitatively, focusing on capturing the spatio-temporal variability of the measured atmospheric parameters. Through this process, the campaign aims to refine model parameterization to enhance simulation accuracy, particularly for the complex and dynamic processes governing atmosphere-glacier interactions.

Preliminary results confirm that ICON-LES exhibits strong agreement with observed data. These findings support the potential of ICON-LES as a reliable tool for modeling atmosphere-glacier interactions, paving the way for climate impact studies in alpine regions. This study highlights the synergy between advanced observational techniques and high-resolution simulations, advancing our understanding of atmosphere-glacier dynamics and their broader climatic implications but at the same time also outlines current limitations of numerical modeling.

The HEFEX campaign demonstrated the effective application of UAVs in atmospheric research. These platforms demonstrated their capability to collect high-resolution, flexible, and precise data in challenging high-elevation environments. By integrating UAV observations with traditional measurement methods, the campaign underscores their growing importance in complementing and extending stationary observations.

Overall, the HEFEX campaign contributes to advancing understanding of atmosphere-glacier processes, improving numerical weather prediction models, and showcasing innovative observational techniques in atmospheric science.

ID: 3.12293

A cautionary note on the use of periodic boundaries in Large-Eddy Simulations above complex terrain

Andreas Rauchöcker

Abstract/Description

Large-Eddy Simulations (LES) are an important tool in studying meteorological processes on the local scale. Periodic boundary conditions are often used in both the streamwise and spanwise direction in LES, as periodic boundaries emulate an infinitely long domain and turbulence develops over time. To study the effect of isolated terrain features on an otherwise undisturbed flow fields, the upstream boundary must be formulated differently, such as open boundaries combined with turbulence inflow generation techniques and specified inflow fields by precursor simulations and nested domains. Flow over periodically repeating hills can be investigated with periodic boundaries and such flows have been investigated in the past. Nevertheless, the boundary condition can still have an impact To investigate the impact of the boundary condition on upstream flow profiles, a set of idealized LES were conducted above a sinusoidal mountain for a shear and buoyancy driven atmospheric boundary layer with the Cloud Model 1 (CM1). While the effect of the boundary condition was limited in purely buoyancy-driven flow regimes, flow regimes associated with synoptic forcings could not be maintained with periodic boundaries in the streamwise direction. Specifically, sheltering effects decelerated the flow in the boundary layer below crest height.

ID: 3.12820

Understanding the Hydrological and Land Cover Dynamics of Peruvian High-Andean Wetlands

Joshua Castro

Abstract/Description

Andean ecosystems play an important role in water regulation and ecosystem services, supporting local livelihoods along the catchment. However, these ecosystems are highly exposed to climate and cryosphere variability, making them particularly vulnerable to environmental changes. Among the Peruvian Andean ecosystems, bofedales (or high-altitude wetlands) play a key role in buffering water during dry periods observed in the strong seasonal variation of the saturated areas. This study investigates the land cover seasonality of ecosystems in the Vilcanota-Urubamba Basin (southern Peruvian Andes) and the hydrological variability of bofedales in its headwater integrating both remote sensing and hydrological modelling. We applied the Tethys-Chloris ecohydrological model to quantify the water balance and analyze in greater detail the role of bofedales in hydrological processes. This model allows us to simulate blue-green-white water fluxes within bofedales. Additionally, two years of fieldwork data are incorporated for model validation, including in situ streamflow measurements, snow cover information, soil characteristics, and glacier mass balance observations. A key focus is to explore the drivers of bofedal water recharge and their variation, assessing how precipitation, ephemeral snow, glacier meltwater, and catchment hydrology influence these wetlands. These processes fluctuate across seasons, regulating the water recharge for bofedales which subsequently function as natural water buffering systems within Andean watersheds. By integrating land cover variability observation with ecohydrological modeling, this study enhances the understanding of bofedales function in glacierized catchments providing a holistic atmo-cryo-hydrosphere perspective.

ID: 3.12967

Evaluating RS-GIS Models Against Field-Measured Taxus Distribution in the Western Himalaya

Shriya Adhikari
Bhatt, Indra Dutt

Abstract/Description

Remote Sensing (RS) and Geographic Information Systems (GIS) have become essential tools for modelling species distributions, but their accuracy is often limited by the spatial resolution of available environmental datasets and the ecological complexity of mountainous landscapes. In the Western Himalaya, Taxus species valued for their medicinal properties are predominantly modelled using climatic and topographic variables. However, discrepancies often arise between predicted and actual distributions due to unresolved sub-grid ecological processes, spatial heterogeneity, and the exclusion of critical microhabitat factors from large-scale datasets. Sub-grid ecological processes refer to fine-scale environmental interactions, such as soil moisture variations, understory competition, and localized human disturbances, which are often averaged out in coarse-resolution RS-GIS models. Spatial heterogeneity, particularly in complex mountain systems, results from the high variability in temperature, precipitation, and soil conditions across short distances. For instance, in Uttarakhand’s Kumaon region, Taxus populations are often found in mixed oak-rhododendron forests with deep, moist soils, whereas in Garhwal, they are more restricted to isolated patches within conifer-dominated forests, affected by aspect-driven microclimatic differences. Similarly, in Himachal Pradesh, Taxus distribution varies significantly between the moist, shaded valleys of Kullu and the drier slopes of Chamba, challenging uniform model predictions. This study examines whether RS-GIS models adequately capture these variations by comparing model predictions with field-measured Taxus distribution. The study assesses the role of microhabitat conditions—such as canopy cover, soil depth, and disturbance levels—often absent from spatial models. Preliminary observations suggest that while RS-GIS models provide broad-scale predictions, their reliability diminishes when applied to fine-scale habitat assessments. Addressing these limitations requires integrating high-resolution ecological data and fostering collaboration between modelers and field researchers to improve the accuracy of species distribution models. This research underscores the need for interdisciplinary approaches to enhance habitat modelling and conservation planning in the Western Himalaya.

ID: 3.13084

Remote Sensing Data Downscalaing for Application in High Mountain Glaciers Modeling

Mariia Usoltseva

Abstract/Description

Glaciers are crucial components of the Earth’s climate system and serve as indicators of climate change. Their substantial mass loss due to global warming significantly contributes to sea-level rise and impacts regional hydrology, downstream ecosystems and settlements. Despite considerable advancements in observational and modelling techniques, accurate quantification of glacier responses to climate change and prediction of their future behaviour remains challenging, particularly in regions characterized by rapidly changing glaciers and complex topography. Remote sensing data is widely used for direct glacial mass change estimation and as input for mountain glacier models, offering global observations with relatively regular time steps and can be helpful for the representation of spatial variability within individual glaciers due to multiple observational points. However, remote sensing-derived datasets often suffer from scale mismatches, uncertainties, and significant errors in regions with steep topography and spatially heterogeneous glacial dynamics, limiting their direct use for model forcing and validation. Therefore, one of the key limitations in this field remains the availability of high-resolution regional datasets that can be used for glacial models. In this study, we investigate the application of remote sensing data downscaling techniques to improve spatial and temporal resolution of glacial mass balance estimates. We focus on the integration of relatively high-resolution surface elevation changes derived from satellite altimetry with coarse-resolution mass changes inferred from satellite gravimetry data to localize mass changes. This study mainly focuses on the glaciers of the Patagonia region. This region, characterized by rapid glacier retreat and complex climatic influences, serves as an ideal case study for integrating multiple satellite datasets and regional models. Preliminary results highlight the potential of enhanced data integration techniques to resolve sub-regional mass changes and improve model-data comparisons in glaciological studies. The potential outcomes of this work aim to benefit the glacial model forcing, parameterization, and data assimilation by providing a refined glacial mass balance dataset and a transferable framework for application in other regions.

ID: 3.13146

Integrating Field Observations and Model-Based Datasets for Glacio-Hydrological Modelling in Central Asia

Phillip Schuster
Georgi, Alexander; Osmonov, Azamat; Sauter, Tobias; Schneider, Christoph

Abstract/Description

Research on water resources in high mountain regions often faces the challenge of integrating scarce and diverse data sets. For my PhD, I combine field observations with global and regional model-based and remote sensing datasets to simulate glacio-hydrological processes in Central Asia from the 1980s to 2100. My glacio-hydrological model is forced with reanalysis data and downscaled GCM projections, while calibration relies on a variety of glaciological and hydrological datasets, including integrated point measurements, UAV- and satellite-based geodetic mass balances, and discharge estimates from different methods.
The available data come from a variety of sources, including Soviet-era records, fragmented post-independence datasets, and measurements from my own field campaigns in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Mongolia. These datasets vary widely in temporal coverage, measurement techniques, and technical standards, leading to significant uncertainties.
This talk will highlight the importance of field observations for reducing uncertainties in large-scale model inputs, while also discussing how meso- and macro-scale models are sensitive to uncertainties in observational data. Examples from several study sites in the Tian Shan will illustrate these challenges and provide a basis for discussion on how to effectively integrate field data in modeling high mountain hydrology.